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In 1977 Don Biederman won both the Maple Leaf 250 and the Northern 200 at Cayuga International Speedway triumphing over drivers such as Jerry Makara, Art Clark and Bob Senneker among other short track legends.

He won the Oxford 250 at Oxford Plains Maine the same year beating the likes of Butch Lindley, Bob Pressley and Harry Gant. This would be the Super Late Model equivalent of Tiger Woods Grand Slam of Golf.

I'd love to find and present the definitive statistics of Don's career. If you can help, or know someone who can, please let me know.


Image courtesy Rod at KDM RaceSports

Many of the images on this page were apparently taken by Dave Franks - a name all race fans in Ontario should know. I wish I knew exactly which ones so I could give proper credit for his work but suffice to say, we race fans could not begin to give Dave his due when it comes to preserving our racing heritage.

Daytona Don Biederman

Don Biederman passed away  on May 31, 1999 and was posthumously inducted into the Canadian Motorsports Hall of Fame in 2001.

 
Image courtesy Rod at KDM RaceSports

It is a sad reality that the accomplishments of most of short track racings greats has gone unrecorded, albeit, not unremembered.

I would like to collect some of the stats and stories from the career of this man who was undoubtedly among the greatest Canadian stock car drivers to ever strap on a car.

His cars were normally battle scarred and often downright ugly, because Don knew unequivocally that appearances did not make speed and he raced every night of the week when he could. Don never seemed to have much help at the track and many thought that was due to his impatience with people in the way or who did not know what they  were doing. Whether this is true or not I can bear witness to the fact that he rarely needed much help anyways. His cars rarely broke.

He was a professional racer before many people even knew you could be, especially hailing from Canada. It was an unforgettable  privilege to have watched him all those years ago.

I know there are many people still looking for stuff on Don Biederman as it is one of the most popular searches used to find my site since I put up my Cayuga Speedway page. I suspect also that a lot of the people looking already have some pictures and stories of their own. If you would like help with any of Don's racing history please contact me here. You can also use the form below to submit it now.

I'd like to know the story behind the ""Daytona Don" name. I just know it has something more than his simply running there - even then, I'm not sure he ever did. I do know he ran some Grand National events and I think he ran Daytona, but for all I know he may have just WANTED to run Daytona.

Hmm, was I a Biederman fan before I was a  Petty fan? It's possible. The image above was taken at the Flamboro Invitational in 1969 when I was only 4 years old and while I had probably not heard of Richard Petty yet, apparently Don had. The one at left  is from 1977, as is the victory lane photo at right. All three are  here courtesy of Rod at KDM Racesports.

Don Biedermans John Thompson Movers Camaro
For years Don sported the colours of John Thompson movers in London and Owen Sound. Robbie Thompson, formerly with CASCAR and now with the ISA is John Thompson's son and dedicated his CASCAR ROTY honors and his first CASCAR win to Don whom he called his friend and mentor. The image above was taken by Rod McLeod of KDM Racesports. The people who lovingly restored it deserve our heartfelt thanks. The image below is of the same car in action at Delaware. It is from  my own collection.

Don Biederman at Delaware circa 1980 

The blue car pictured below is the one I envision when I think of Biederman. It was almost the same grabbar blue that my father used for most of his career as well. Don's cars were normally from Howe Racing Enterprises. Seeing this car in victory lane at Flamboro was a common sight. I'd be interested in knowing if anyone has more wins there than Don.

Don Biedermans blue #43


Here's a shot from Flamboro when the Super Lates were getting a little wild with the dropped rooflines and wild spoilers. It appears as though Don had gotten into someone on this night.


This shot from Flamboro in 1980 also courtesy of Rod at KDM Motorsports.

If you are a race fan from Ontario  between the ages of 30 and 75 you either loved or hated this man but like all the greats, you had an opinion. It was not possible to watch him race and not be affected.

OSCAAR has a Don Bierman Memorial Race

Flamboro Speedway has an annual Achievement award named for Don

FOAR inducted Don into their Hall of Fame in 2000. He is also in their starting lineup of the Century.


 Daytona Don's Grand National Series starts

Year

Rank

Starts

Poles

1

2

3

4

5

6-10

Laps

LL

RL

Miles

$

1966

58

14

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

2169

0

0

1285

$2,215.00

1967

38

22

0

0

0

0

0

0

1

2679

0

0

2231

$5,935.00

1968

77

2

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

252

0

0

372

$1,210.00

1969

88

4

0

0

0

0

0

0

1

566

0

0

687

$1,960.00

Life

 

42

0

0

0

0

0

0

2

7408

0

0

4576

$11,320.00

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Due to spam abuse, I can no longer accept stories with an online form.

Thanks,
Bart



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Just to let everyone know that Don Biederman's name has been added to the Augusta International Raceway Memorial that is located at the former racing facility that is being developed into Diamond Lakes Regional Park. Additional information and photographs of the monument can be found at the Augusta International Raceway tribute site. The memorial expansion will be dedicated during our annual event on September 8, 2007. Information on that event can also be found at the Augusta Vintage Nationals web site. Thanks!


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My brother and I ran Hobbies at Flamboro in the 70's. At that time Don ran a 75 Chevy Nova which he later sold to Larry Foubert. At that time the fad had come about with those hand-held signs on a stick that would flip over with different sayings on them. This one night Don got to the track late as I believe he was at Cayuga qualifying for the Goodyear 250. He went out in the consi to qualify. As he went down the back straight by the pits you could see him holding up this hand held sign with "hello", "goodbye" etc. He qualified for the feature and started last. As usual, he started his march to the front, once in a while he would hold up the sign with some flip card showing some saying. With 3-4 laps left his engine went in a cloud of smoke coming out of corner 2. As Don coasted down the back straight, he held up the pop up sign with"HELP" showing as he pulled off into the infield. He had a good sense of humor!


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Date: February 02, 2007
Time: 01:34:14 PM
 

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allright all you flamboro and pinecrest fans . just struck gold. my uncle owned flamboro speedway and eventualy pinecrest. God bless he's past now, but his son has mountains of trophy's with the names of all the greats on them; beiderman, millagen,hanley, scannall, senekar, just to name a few. You like pictures, he has pictures of Bobby Allison standing next to tommy millagen's power brothers red and gold chevelle in pinecrests pit area. The pinecrest speedway corvette pace car is parked at the hwy. #7 & islington shell gas and garage. my cousin is not in the greatest shape now, and he's invited me to have access to what i consider the VAULT. god bless don beiderman and this web site. Stay tunned and be aware of sum exiting news, of pictures, and possibly videos of the construction of pinecrest speedway from 1951 to finish.


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Date: December 06, 2006
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Down east in the late sixties when don was say [GOD] .he brought his car in after afew hot laps .Every guy in the pits watched every move don made.So for some fun Don jacked up the rear of his race car, went to his tool box and got out some old fish scales. He then lifted the trunk so ever one watching his every move could see and placedone hook on the axle and one on the spring.he then got inside the car put it into gear ,reved it few times ,got out and made like he made an adjustment ,closed the trunk let the car down and walked away, The next day [race day] when you went throuhgt the pits just about every race car had a set of fish scalemakeing ajustments to there suspenion.theones that didnt just got to the store to late. Bob cordingley driver in mid sixties pinecrest,sutton flambouro.

 


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Date: February 13, 2006
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I remeber as a kid growing up and going to watch Don at Pinecrest Speedway just outside Toronto , not really sure exactly where it was being so young . We'd go every Friday or Saturday night with my father and watch the races and the Demolition Derby if we were lucky, and till this day remember Donny Biederman.....and they couldn't beat him at that track either ! Rest In Peace Don ! You'll be remebered by this fan always ! , Thank's for the memories !


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Date: January 24, 2006
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Don Biederman took a stock car too Oswego Speedway and qualified for the Budweiser Modified 200 . I am a little young too recall the particulars of the car or what he had too do too met the specs of a modified .But it was the reaction on my fathers face that i remember " holy s#$t that guy runs a stock at Flamboro!!" I do rememeber the car broke early in the event . Iam gonna try and find the respective year book from Oswego for the exact details. COOL SITE


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I moved from Ontario before Don passed away. I raced at Flamboro Speedway and have great memories of of him. Race in Peace Daytona Don.


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Date: December 03, 2005
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In 1978 I was 4years old and my father, John Dundass started to crew for Wayne Keeling in the 82 John Thompson moving, Bob Clements owned Late Model Super Sport at Cayuga. This was my interduction to motor sports and a great era in soutern Ontario late model racing. Beiderman and Hanley were the biggest stars of the time but Keeling was the track champion at Cayuga at the end of the year. Bob Clements Changed to a Buick fron a Camaro for '79 and it was a mural of that car that graced the back of the stands at Cayuga for the early '80! 's. A lot of pictures in the Cayuga programs from that time show the 72 and the 43 running one two. the people around the Clement/Keeling/Thompson camp got as good a view as anybody of the greatest fued this areas racing fan ever saw. My father always joked that he would relay the things the Biederman camp said about Hanley by saying "Well your buddy mad dog....." and would start off the thing said from the Hanley camp at Biederman with "the big dumby...", my father felt it was inportant to let people know what camp the story came from. I remember the CTV broudcasts of the Goodyear and Molson races, in one Don was leading early with Jr. second, Biederman was waving at Hanley to pass him. It was classic Biederman (Butch Miller went on to win). I wonder If Hanley ever misses the man that some time seemed more interested in beating him then winning (but of coure he was a professioal racer and always played to win). It's an era I miss and was the bes! t this area is likley to see.


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Date: October 28, 2005
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Wow! Seeing those pictures of those super late models from the late 70's and early to mid 80's sure brought back alot of memories. My father, Herb Erb, #61 raced with Biederman on many occasions. I remember tracks like Barrie, Flamboro, Cayuaga and Sunset but I did not realize that Mr. Bierderman raced at so many other tracks, especially those in the states. I am quite certain that I met Don, but unfortunately I was very young at the time and do not really remember him. However, I do have memories of Herb and Don and JR. battling each other on the track. The majority of the time would have been at Flamboro where my dad was points champion, I believe it would have been perhaps 1980. Please correct me if I am mistaken (it was a long time ago!). I also remember a Sunday afternoon in the late summer at Sunset where Bierderman raced someone so hard into turn 1down the straight on the outside he didn't make turn 1 and ended up several hundred yards into a corn field. I also remember pushing and shuffing matches in the infield areas and the pits between drivers, pit crews and fans in those days when someone wrecked somebody else. The only light I could possibly shed on the Daytona Don nickname would come from one of my dad's pit crew members, Bill (Tub) Pfrimer. He told me that Biederman has been the only Canadian born driver to qualify for Daytona and that he did it by himself, with no pit crew and his own financing. Sounds about right from all I have read on this site. Anyways great to see those pictures and I wouldn't be surprized if Don's cars in those pictures have a little of #61 Herbie Erb's paint on them!


While surfing around tonight I came across your web side about Don Biederman, he was by any standard "one of a kind" I heard a lot about him before I ever met him as I knew his uncle and some of his relatives and heard stories about him. I first met him in 1970-71 era when I became involved with the Late Models and trekked around eastern Canada as a pit crew on a competing late model and witnessed Don in his prime, his competition with Jr. was legend also some of his antics. You stated that you didn't know if he raced at Daytona, in the Stock Car Racing Encyclopedia he is listed with 42 Nascar starts from 1966 to 1969 I don't know if he ever had a start at Daytona, but I know he qualified for several races that he sold his starting position, it seems to me that a couple were at Daytona he always said he could make more money selling starting spots than he could racing in Nascar. In the past few weeks I was chatting with a retired track owner and promoter and of course Biederman and Hanley came up, he told me of many hastles he had with Don and the many times he got outwitted by him.

I am glad someone is keeping "The Legend" alive.

Ed Gorman


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Date: October 15, 2005
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Back in the early 70's Don & Junior got together in turn 4 at the flag'. Don got out of his car and jumped on Hanley's hood tryin' to stomp Hanley through the windshield.Hanley put her in gear and took him for a ride down the frontstrech.Something I'll never forget.P.S.IF YOU WANT TO TALK REAL CANADIAN CHAMPIONS ----------HANLEY'S YOUR MAN!----stuu1 at netzero.ca


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Date: September 17, 2005
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Love your site on cayuga and have been race fan for over 40 yrs. Seen lots of Hanley,Biederman races and they always were the best on fridays at Cayuga. Ihave lots of pictures and some videos of the races there and your website has brought back many of memories, Will let other race fans know of this great site of yours, Bill


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Date: August 10, 2005
Time: 10:05:01 PM
 

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I love this page. Great job!! You have showed him off great, like he deserves to be! A legend racer at his finest.. Keep this site going We all enjoy it! To all that got a chance to see and race with him, you are lucky for sure.


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Date: May 25, 2005
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HELLO BART.I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS SITE, DONNY WAS A SUPER GUY TO US.THE SHORT TIME WE WERE CLOSE TO HIM, WE SHURE HAD A LOT OF FUN. I ENTERED THE SECOND STORY DOWN THE PAGE & ENTERED MY EMAIL ADDRESS INCORRECT. I KNOW THIS SITE IS NOT HERE TO EXCHANGE PHOTOS,OR FOR MY BENIFIT. I WAS HOPPING SOMEONE WOULD KNOW WHO MIGHT HAVE INFO, ON OLD PINECREST,FLAMBUROUGH,VARNEY,SAUBLE PHOTOS.ALL OUR GUY'S WENT TO THE BIG TRACK IN THE SKY AWAY TO EARLY I LIFE ALSO.IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE IT WOULD BE GRATELY APPRECIATED. CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS MRFIXIT1 at ROGERS.COM THANKS AGAIN.


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Remote Name: 209.240.205.61
Date: May 07, 2005
Time: 02:48:12 AM
 

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In 1967 I met Don at a garage I worked at in Daytona. It was a place where owners, drivers and crews hung out. Some work on their cars, had work done, or just came around to see what was going on. Don was there about every mourning. I didn't know who he was, only that he was in a ARCA Race. We got to talking one time, and I was asking him about his driving ARCA and NASCAR, both. He told me it was FIA regulated, or something like that, so that let him compete. As I got to know him a little more, as quiet as he was, ya just couldn't help to like him. Now the Story: Don came down to Daytona (I forgot what year) and didn't have the best time of his life. Things just went wrong, Car trouble, bad finishes, one of those what ever ya do, it just don't workout, as anyone who ever raced knows happens. Well Don ran out of $$$$. I mean BROKE, not badly bent. No money to get home. Everyone pitched in, $10 here$20, there, enough to get him back home. Now here's what makes people like him stand out. (To me anyway) When he came down again, he went around paid everyone back, and thanked them. This was a job in its self, finding everyone. The man had integrity. God Bless His Soul. (Buddy)


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this man sounds like racing was his life.did he ever race in windsor? Lets keep his history alive by keeping the sport of racing alive....amen From mark in Calgary


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Date: April 13, 2005
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IN THE PINECREST DAYS WE RAN TWO CARS IN CHARGER CLASS. #60;GOING. #61;GONE.DRIVEN BY VINCE FORMAN & ALE PACEY OF KITGHENER ONT.WE RAN VERY WELL THERE.ONE NIGHT DONNY BROKE HIS CAR AND COULDENT RACE. HE CAME OVER TO OUR PIT.HE SAID YOU GUYS HAVE GOOD CARS BUT THEY JUST DON"T GO AROUND CORNNERS TO GOOD.DONNY PROCEEDED TO INQUIRE OF OUR SETUP SPEC.S. HE SAID DO THIS DO THAT. WITCH COMEING FROM A MAN WE HELD IN THE HIGHEST RESPECT&ADDMIRATION WE DID WHAT HE SAID.WOW,LIKE NIGHT & DAY.WE CAME TO BE GOOD FRIENDS WITH DONNY. HE WAS A GOOD FRIEND AND AN INSPIRATION TO ALL.IN HIS FIELD.I JUST STUMBBLED APON YOUR SITE AND ENJOY IT VERY MUTCH.I REMEMBER ONE NIGHT AT PINECREST AFTER THE RACE,I ASKED DONNY WHAT HE WAS DOING TOMORROW.NOT MUCH.I SAID WE WERE GOING TO SAUBLE BEECH TO RUN AN INVITATION.DONNY SAID I WISH I COULD.BUT I WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE MOTORS& MY REAR END THOSE FARMMERS UP THERE WOUN"T LET YOU USE QUICK CHANGE REARENDS AND LEFT IT AT THAT.THE NEXT DAY,SHURE ENOUGH DONNY PULLS IN THE PIT BESIDE US READY TO GO RACEING.IT GETS IN OUR BLOOD RACEING FOR SHURE,BUT I NEVER MET ANYONE IN THAT CALLIBER OF RACEING MORE DEDICATTED TO THE SPORT THEN DONNY.I COULD GO ON BUT THATS ENOUGH FROM ME FOR NOW.I DIDDEN"T KNOW FOR QUITE SOME TIME AFTER DONNY PAST ON AND I WOULD LIKE TO EPRESS MY DEEPEST SYMPATHY TO HIS FAMILY & LOVE ONES HE WAS A GOOD MAN. THANKS FOR THIS SITE. PS. IF YOU EVER RUN ACROSS PICTURES OF#6 CAR; VINCE FORMAN.ANYWEAR OR #60 & #61 CHARGER CARS PINECREST SPEEDWAY I WOULD APPRECIA


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Date: October 11, 2004
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My Brother and I have watched Don Beiderman come to Nova Scotia and race his heart out at the larger money races in our area. He would always have his cars prepared to finish and finish first.We were racing a street stock at Scotia Speedworld the week before Don passed away and had the car working well, and after the show Don came over and took a look over our car. He was in Nova Scotia helping out Bobby White. So he got telling us about this sportsman car which he was racing up in Ontario and we had a good old chat. Any way after his death his car ended up in nova scotia and was in the hands of a couple of people before we purcashed the car. The car had not been as competitive as one would have expected but knowing it was Don's car we bought the car knowing there had to be a competitve spirit in this chassis . And sure enough we have gotten the car to be very competitive in the two year span which we have raced it as the # 38 Pontiac Grand Prix of Roma Bros Racing ( We believe the car had a Monte Carlo body on it when Don raced it)


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Date: August 06, 2004
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Great Site! We were at Michigan Speedway in the late 60's for a GT race (old NASCAR pony car division) on the saturday before the then Grand National race. My dad was there working on a Camaro car driven by Les Covey, blew the motor early in the race. Biederman was at the big track and was heading to BaerField Raceway outside of Fort Wayne Indiana that night by himself. Knowing my father since the CNE days, he asked if we wanted to tag along to help him out. About sixteen at the time, I was surprised to see the respect that Donnie received from the locals. When we drove in with that Castrol sponsored '64 Chevelle, it seemed like a hush fell through the pits as everybody stopped to watch us drive in. Once unloaded, it was like the King had returned as it seemed like everybody came over to say hello and wish him luck. It was quite a bit different to what I had been used to at Flamboro, Pinecrest and Cayuga and the likes where confrontation always seemed to be the order of the day. Don started at the back, charged up to fourth at the end of I believe it was 35 laps (I recall Moose Myers won in the Stovall #0). We had a huge crowd of people around the car after the feature, everyone wishing him the best. Dad drove the rig back to Michigan that night so Don could get some sleep. A truly great racer who would literally go anywhere to run. Thanks for the memories Don!


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Date: July 07, 2004
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Hi, Great site. I knew Don since I was a rug rat, he was one of my heros growing up. He would hang out at my Dad's shop at home ocassionally when he was looking for engine tuning tips an parts. I've helped him at the track and he has taught me a few tricks as well.When I started racing, He was really pissed at me one night because I couldn't get the line right at Sunset in my racecar. Believe me, I never got it wrong again and picked up a second on my lap time immediately. I have many fond memories of those early stock car days. I'll never forget the fact he never liked tailgaters on the highway when he was hauling his car. If anyone got close for too long, the ole' trailer would swing on to the shoulder and shower them with rocks. That was just him. As for Nick Rampling, he was and still is the finest craftsman you could have restoring a classic car's bodyshell. He started "Narco collision" in Oakville after he sold Bodycraft. He sold Narco in the eighties and retired to doing custom work at home.He's doing well these days and now lives out near Georgetown and creates the most awsome metal pedal cars you've ever seen! See them at: http://www.steelcraftcanada.com and you'll see what I mean. regards, Perry


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Date: July 01, 2004
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I really enjoyed your site, my dad ran most of the southern ont. track in his super late madel in the 70's and early 80's, he started by pitting for the late George Rueffer and eventually got his own car and also had a car for Frank Blaker when he wanted to run again, he also had Sharon Zardo run a super late model while she was also runnin her own street stock. I remembered Don as a real quiet guy, he would play ball hockey with me in the hallway of my dads shop that he shared with Donny Hawn, My dad only told me one thing about Don and that was not to bug him at the race track and i never did, i feel real lucky that i knew such a great person and a racer and feel somewhat privilaged when i hear others talk about him that honestly didn't know him.


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Date: June 14, 2004
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I saw Don Biderman a few times at Autodrome Val Bélair in Quebec City in the 70's. It was always a big event when he came here. Great souvenirs of good old time!


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I really enjoyed all of the postings on this site.... Some of Don's favourite says: 1. It sticks like shit to a blanket 2. What's happenin here? 3. He a Weapon I remember going to his shop on Speers Road in Oakville one time where he shared space with Junior. They were on "fightin" terms..so they had painted a line down the middle of the floor. One posting mentioned Nick Rampling...he was number 70 and used to own BodyCraft in Lakeview, now Mississauga....just east of Cawthra Road on the Lakeshore. This was the same stopping grounds for Don, Nick Rampling, Frank Blaker, Jimmy Hallahan, George Rueffer and a bunch of others. Never did here what happened to Nick....after he sold the business.


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Date: May 28, 2004
Time: 01:53:43 PM

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I WATCHED DON RACE AT PINECREST FROM 1972 UNTIL THEY CLOSED IT MIDWAY THROUGH THE 1977 SEASON. I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH IN 1977 TO SEE HIM WIN THE OXFORD 250 WHEN IT MEANT SOMETHING TO WIN IT. HE WON THE GRAND SUM OF $5000.00 DOLLARS. THE OTHER RACERS THOUGH HE CHEATED AS HE RAN A SET OF FIRESTONE TIRES THAT NOBODY ELSE HAD. THE WEDNESDAY AFTER THE OXFORD [MAINE ] 250, HE SHOWED UP AT LANCASTER SPEEDWAY[OUTSIDE OF BUFFALO] WITH THE NOVE HE WON OXORD WITH;FRESHLY PAINTED AND A NEW CAMARO. HE RAN THE NOVE WITH LATE MODELS,THE CAMARO WITH THE MODIFIEDS. I THINK HE WON THE LATE MODEL RACE AND FINISHED TOP TEN WITH MODS. IN THE MODIFIED FIELD WAS MAYNARD TROYER, RICHIE EVANS, GEORGE KENT, MARV & MERV TRIECHLER. NO STIFFS THERE. ON DONS WAY TO OXFORD THE WEEK BEFORE, WITH THE NOVA HE RAN AT STAFFORD SPRINGS WITH THE MODIFIEDS . I THINK HE ALSO FINISHED TOP TEN. I SAW DON RUN AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT TRACKS. HE WAS ALWAYS FAST. SOME OF DONS EARLY RACING HISTORY SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE HE EARLY RACING STARTED AT THE C.N.E. SPEEDWAY. I HAVE BEEN TOLD HIS EARLY CAR NUMBER WAS #17. YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, DON WAS FEATURED IN AN ARTICLE IN STOCK RACING MAGAZINE IN 1981. I HAVE THIS MAGAZINE IN MY COLLECTION. I COULD GO ON A LOT LONGER ABOUT DON, BUT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING. WHO EVER WENT BEFORE HIM OR AFTER, HE WILL BE IN AL OT OF MINDS WHAT A CANADIAN RACER SHOULD BE.


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Details: A Memory of Don Biederman
Name: Alan Arseneault
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Date: May 10, 2004
Time: 12:11:29 AM

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My name is Alan Arseneault and I had the priviledge of being the track photographer for Checker Flag Speedway in Windsor, as well as the South Buxton and Ridge Raceways in the Chatham area, all in the 1980's and early 90's. My favourite memory of Don Biederman is from a 100 lap late model event that I was covering at the now long gone Mount Clemens Speedway in Michigan, probably in 1982 or 1983. Don had qualified his completely stark white machine with taped on numbers on the front row for the event. As the field came around to TAKE THE GREEN, I mean this was time to go, Don suddenly veered off of turn 4 into the pit lane. The track officials, clearly feeling that Don's presence was significant to the crowd immediately waved off the start and brought out the yellow. I ran from the infield to go to Don's pit to see what mechanical woe had struck him, and whether or not he would be able to take advantage of the race being held for him. I will never forget Don throwing the window net down and yelling for what he had forgotten, a stick of gum! Don said he could not run without that stick of gum. Someone soon ran over and handed Don his gum, and off he went to take his front row spot back, and off they went. Memory fails me as to how Don finished that one, I don't believe that it was a victory, but it sure was a unique start to a race.


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Date: April 26, 2004
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well my dad used to race at pine crest speed way and he is a huge fan of daytona donny. and he swears that don was disqualified by the flag man......so donny drove over got on the roof of his car and punched the flag man out also....one night we were at rolling wheels dirt track...and Donny showed up and ran on the dirt with his blue camaro......honestly....it was like 10 years ago though...


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Date: February 26, 2004
Time: 05:47:03 PM

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My dad used to race at Pinecrest speedway in the sixties and seventies his name is Cliff Gordon and he had many batttles with Biederman including trying to t-bone him after cutting throuugh the pits because Biederman pushed him out of the way on the last lap of a feature. I would love to get more info or pics of Pinecrest as my dad is ill and I would like to show him.


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Date: February 26, 2004
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My dad used to race at Pinecrest speedway in the sixties and seventies his name is Cliff Gordon and he had many batttles with Biederman including trying to t-bone him after cutting throuugh the pits because Biederman pushed him out of the way on the last lap of a feature. I would love to get more info or pics of Pinecrest as my dad is ill and I would like to show him.


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Details: searching about DAYTONA DON BIEDERMAN
Name: JOSE A.CICUENDEZ
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Date: January 02, 2004
Time: 03:36:29 PM

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Hello, I am from Spain but a very great Late Model racing fan specially in the late sixties to early 80s time period.The first stock car magazine that I could find was given to me from the father of a friend of mine that was Usaf officer on duty here in an shared Spain/Usa air force base.That issue was Nov 77 Stock car racing mag.with the coverage of Oxford 250 race,so immediately I hooked with that Maine race and Don Biederman,then I only was a kid who was living thousand of miles away with a big pond in middle. Since then years later I at last could sbscribe to SCR mag. and I am trying to find any of stuff about Late Model racing this time and about Daytona Don,I really regret his death. Your page its really wonderful specially the photos,when I saw the starting grid photo of the 69 Flamboro Invitational I fall in love again. Please if you or other visitor of this page have any more photo like this of the same race or other years Invitational races I would be eternity in thankful. thank you very much,and regards to all stock car fans all over the world.


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Date: December 23, 2003
Time: 09:21:57 PM

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Awesome Site, Especially Daytona Don's Page. This man I swear was more loved by my mother than my father was. I have many stories, but the best was in 1978 at Cayuga. I was 14 years old walking through the campgrounds listening to all the Americans bragging that Bob Senneker, Butch Miller, a very young Mark Martin and Jr. Hanley where all going to kick Don's ass. This would be the first time I'd seen Jr. Hanley race and if I remember Jr. broke the track record in one of his brand new sleek machines. The race was a Twin 125, called the Maple Leaf 250. Wherever you finished in the first 125 lapper you where than inverted for the second. You guessed it! Don won the first and had to start scratch in the next. He than went on to win the next 125 lapper with his baby blue Nova without a "Baker Race Engine", not only beating Jr. Hanley but actually lapping him with a few laps to go. My mom and I where freaking out in the stands. Wherever Don went racing, we followed. He was my hero. I have a video of Don somewhere, actually shaking Jr. Hanleys hand on the podium at Cayuga. This was late in his career back in around 1994. Don is up in the big racetrack in the sky racing with his buddies telling them that the promoters are the only ones getting rich off of him! They broke the mould when he was born, but the memories will last forever. Cheers


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Date: November 24, 2003
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Don Hastie race with and knew well Don Biederman . Don Hastie has many photos and newspaper clipping of their days at pinecrest and tour down East. Please feel free to get in touch 613-968-6473 Don Hastie #34.


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Details: REGUARDING MR. DON BIEDERMAN
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Date: October 18, 2003
Time: 11:51:15 PM

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MY NAME IS WES GOOD AND I WAS THE OWNER-PROMOTER OF SUNSET SPEEDWAY.FROM 1975 UNTILL 1980. DON WAS WITH-OUT A DOUBT THE MOST HONEST,AND TRUSTED FRIEND THAT YOU COULD HAVE. I REMBER WHEN DON HAD A BAD STREEK OF LUCK, HE CAME INTO MY OFFICE AND ASKED FOR A MEETING. HE HAD BLOWEN HIS MOTOR AND WAS TO RUN IN A VERY IMPORTANT RACE, NOW IF YOU KNOW DON YOU WILL KNOW THAT BORRWING WAS HE LAST THING ON IS MENU.HE ASKED ME FOR FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, TO GET HIS MOTOR READY TO RACE. I CUT HIM A CHECK FOR THE $4,000.00 AND AWAY HE WENT. NEXT WEEK HE WAS BACK WITH THE $4,000.00 AND ALSO A GOOD BOTTLE OF SCOTCH AND I NEVER TOLD HIM I HATED SCOTCH. I VISITED DON AT HIS SHOP IN THE WEST END JUST A CALL TO SEE WHAT HE WAS DOING. THERE WAS DON WITH THE TROPHY HE HAD WON IN THE NASCAR RACE UNDER THE REAR END OF HIS CAR CATCHING OIL. GOD DON THAT IS A NASCAR TROPHY WHAT ARE YOU DOING? DON LOOKED AT ME WITH THAT LOOK THAT ONLY DON COULD GIVE, AND SAID CAN THIS TROPHY PUT BREAD ON MY TABLE? I HAD TO AGREE .AND WE MUST REMBER DON BIEDERMAN WAS RACING FOR A LIVING WHEN MOST OF THE OTHER RACERS WERE JUST HAVING FUN. IF HE DIDNT WIN HE DIDNT EAT. THAT IS THE TRUTH. DON BIEDERMAN WOULD LAY THE METAL TO YOU ON THE TRACK ,AND HELP YOU SET UP YOUR CAR SO IT WAS READY TO RACE. THERE WILL NEVER BE A ANOTHER DON BIEDERMAN. AND I MISS HIM AND HIS EXCITING RACING. WES GOOD


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Date: October 05, 2003
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Go #43, Go!


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Date: August 25, 2003
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Great site! The Don Biederman section was excellent.


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Date: August 08, 2003
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I am very sorry to hear about his passing.I used to watch him race a Delware in the 70's and it was always a good race when he was there.I was with the Beatty,Fenwick and Williams race fans from Sarnia but when we went to the pits after the races were over he always had time to say hello.My sympathys to his family and his extended families at all tracks.He was a good man.


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Date: July 29, 2003
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I can relate to Don's weird sence of humour. I was at the old Westgate Speedway when Dave Taylor was starting out racing and Dave was having a problem with his magneto and asked Don how you could tell whether it was working or not. Don had the cap off and told Dave to hold onto the wire coming out of it, which he did and Don turned the bottom of it sending Dave about 3 feet in the air. Said yeh, lots of volts in that maybe. Not the problem Dave. Don barely cracked a smile. Don't forget the Beiderman Memorial race coming up at Flamboro August 16 2003, an OSCAAR show they do every year. Let's hope the get a good car count and good weather. This is the only race that OSCAAR runs that's over 50 laps and it'll be 63 I think.


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Remote Name: 216.65.164.36
Date: June 28, 2003
Time: 06:42:37 PM

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Oh my, I am so saddened by knowing Don is gone. I have been living out west for years and lost track of things. Year ago I wrote a poem about Don and sent it to the Marc Times racing news. I know they still have it as a few years ago say in 1998 I called and they re printed it. It went something like this.

Way up north where the cold winds blow, comes a man who puts on a real good show. He comes many miles for what fourtune and fame? No , but to put on a good show for the old racing game. His car comes on the track sounding like a bucket of screws, but when Don Biederman gets going there is no lead in his shoes. Yes, when he gets going there is no holding him back, that why I say egg beater just whipped the pack.

I know this is not totally right as its been since the 70's since I wrote it and he was racing at Tri City speedway in Auburn Michigan. This man was a very special person to all. Your right some loved him some did not. But if you knew Don at all YOU LOVED HIM> He was serious about the sport. Sometimes smiles were short. But never for kids. I use to laugh how in the back of his truck how he could cross customs with some of the secrets he carried back there. A pile of old tires with a few cases of beer stacked in the middle. I will never forget one night he got so tired he pulled over on I 75 for a short nap. He woke up with a start thinking he was dreaming hitting the wall at Auburn. Well when he got out he saw his dream was almost reality. Someone had hit his car on the hauler.. God Speed my friend Don.

M.E.F.


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Date: May 27, 2003
Time: 04:59:46 PM

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NICE SITE !!!!!!!! I ESPECIALY LIKE THE DON BIEDERMAN SECTION.

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Date: May 13, 2003
Time: 03:16:13 PM

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Above you list Don Biederman as winning the 1977 Cayuga Northern 200 but as i recall 52-Earl Ross won that event in the Coca-Cola can Firebird.I don't think Don ever won the 200. Brian McCullough.

Check out www.oscaar.ca and click on the predmond Fotki link at the bottom of the oscaar frontpage,once on Fotki website click on PUBLIC ALBUMS[ignore the path not found words] leave a photo comment if you like or go to www.gordbennett.com and go to links,once there click on Pat Redmonds historical pics link.They also have a message board. There are over 2,000 racong pics from 70's to today with another 1,000 coming soon.

Pic contributions can be sent to:Brian M.--2000latemodelraces at sympatico.ca or mail to:965 Simcoe St.N.Apt.26,Oshawa,Ontario,Canada.L1G-4W3.

P.S.-Bart,would like you to add link to our Fotki website if you would. I,Brian McCullough have added pics to websites like Cayuga[the black and white history shots on their photo gallery],Flamboro[about 90% of the history archive],Barrie[in the KDM Barrie history section],www.maritimemotorsports.com [in their Hanley History section],OSCAAR'S website and several others. Hope you enjoy all the old pics on our site from Pinecrest,Cayuga,Sunset etc...Use any you like on your website.


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Date: April 15, 2003
Time: 06:18:23 PM

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I am searching for any pictures, race lineups etc...from PINECREST SPEEDWAY...my family visited the track religously every Saturday night......Thanks in advance....Scott Davis


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Date: March 15, 2003
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I was shocked today, when I found your site. I did not know the GREATEST STOCK CAR DRIVER had passed away. I am very glad to know someone else thinks so to. Where do I begin. Don Biederman as a man of very little words, he actions always meant more. Racing was the be all and end all of his life. Daytona was his annual ritual, the start of his new year, or it seemed to me. It was always a "matter of four bolts", he would never take about his races, wins, losses, wrecks, ....never. Their are lots of people around who maybe able to tell you more about Don's racing carreer, Ken Silk, used to build cars in southern ontario, around Flamboro. He would be a good person to start with. Don also talked about Jr. Johnson , a car builder in Virginia. I dated Don Biederman from 1971 to 1982 . I only knew the quiet man.


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Date: January 31, 2003
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i watched don try and win over junior hanley back in the old days at mt clemens speedway. ole junior had to much in the orange 72 for him though. i hated to see hanley beat my guy at the time. but soon found out that danny bird 33 had a drinking problem. oh well, on to BOB SENNECKER GO 84


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Date: January 26, 2003
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You are right , i was sitting at home a little bored looking for info of my racing heros from my youth , and I searched for Don Biederman and came to your site , I loved it !!

When i was a kid I used to help my uncle with a street stock he had at Delaware (John Gower #04) ,. As I am sure you remember , Don was there every Friday night . He had an engine go sour in a heat race . Don came into the pits , changed the engine BY HIMSELF and go on to win the feature .

He was a man who did not say much at all , my uncle tried to introduce me to him in Florida at New Smyrna while Don was there helping Ed Howe in 1983. Don just grunted a no when we asked him if he was there to race and went back to work on Ed 's car as it was being towed in from a wreck , but that as you say was Don .

I have had a great time at your website and I will return , maybe I will see you at the track some time


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Date: January 13, 2003
Time: 06:15:18 PM

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I grew up in North York......Don Biederman was my uncle (of sorts), a different part of the Biederman clan. I used to watch him race on occasion at Pinecrest Speedway (Hwy 7 and Jane st.). Unfortunately, never met him, nor had the chance to. Sorry to read of his passing.


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Remote Name: 66.185.85.79
Date: January 06, 2003
Time: 10:36:40 PM

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Around 1964 Don Biederman was teamed up with Nick Rampling who owned Bodycraft Autobody out of Port Credit . Don drove a 64 Chev & Nick a 64 or 65 Plymouth . They both competed at C.N.E. speedway till it's closing in 1966 . I believe it was with these two cars that they also competed at Daytona . Do you know or can you get any information on Nick Rampling .


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Date: November 30, 2002
Time: 07:37:23 PM

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This may be two versions of the same story sent to me via e-mail. Both took place at Pinecrash ...

Biederman stories where do I begin lol. Hi my name is --------------and like you I grew up around the short tracks here in Ontario. My Mom Dad and I went to Pinecrest up until it closed and then started going to Sunset. I can remember several nights where Don was ready to take on the entire Pinecrest pits to get his point across lol. One night sticks out though till this day. Not sure who else was involved but I do remember watching Don jump onto the hood of this guys car after Don had wrecked. Next thing everyone knew, and to the surprise of Don the guy drove off with Don still on his hood holding on for dear life. Just to see him holding on was funny considering the size of him at the time. Like you said on your site you either loved him or hated him. I myself was never to fond of him, but whenever he was on the track he was the one to watch. Win or lose he still attracted attention. __________

Similar story may be what he is referring to was with Jerry Makara. Bieder was leading a 100 lapper and Jerry spun him out. Beiderman jumped out of his car at the start/finish line and tried to punch Makara through the window. Makara took off and Don had a hold of something and swung himself on the rear deck lid and started putting the boots to Makara's head through the rear window opening. Makara went all the way around the track at speed and stopped at the start/ finish line so the officials could get Bieder off. What a Night! On the restart I was 8 out of about 24 cars. Beider started at the back and was so incensed he jumped the start and was about 3rd or 4th end of the first lap. He won the race, then they disqualified him. They waited until he left the track to make that decision. This nite was typical Pinecrest, wild and woolly, but that place was always packed.


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When my father raced we often toured to the same tracks as Biederman. From Cayuga, Delaware and Flamboro we would tour to Sunset, Pinecrest, Checker Flag and all the Ontario tracks as well as Perry and Holland New York, Heidelberg Pennsylvania and Mt. Clemens Michigan. As you can imagine the trip from track to track almost always became a race by necessity if possible but for no good reason at all if necessary. One year our tow truck was an ancient International pickup with cancer so bad the box sides would literally flap in the breeze on the way down the highway, but like any other self respecting racer it had a finely tuned big block that would kill.

On one particular day when we were headed for Flamboro for the Triple 50's Biederman pulled alongside and passed. Well, that wouldn't do at all and the race was on. The lead was swapped more than once to the great peril of everyone involved and some who weren't but eventually the old International took the point and kept it. Nothing was said once we got to the track until after the first 50 lapper. Biederman probably won the thing although I don't really remember that part. What I do remember is him coming over while Dad was working on the car and saying, " Hey Garner, I know your problem. You gotta pull the motor out of that pickup truck and put it in the car".